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Tuka diskutirame se od remorker pa do floten super-nosach na nuklearen pogon...Ok'aj?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQw2ENh3eBc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Moj doprinos za temava,Trajdentot mi ima bolje start Bulavava nekako na pochetok mislish rikverc ke ide sepak salvo od 4-ri komada e za pochit i poklon do zemja.
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Ova bogatstvo go imav doma od 14 godini
i u selenje se nickosa

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Staro video od kriznite '90-ti - ama sepak fino pokazhuva kakov vnatreshen kapacitet imaat "Typhoon"-kite...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrULRXlAlMU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Iko wrote:Staro video od kriznite '90-ti - ama sepak fino pokazhuva kakov vnatreshen kapacitet imaat "Typhoon"-kite...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrULRXlAlMU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nad 40 000 tona :shok:
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Porinata - ramno 48 000-di...poteshka od nosachi na avioni vo Vtora Svetska Vojna...
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tretiran u druga tema
pa da go izogovarame i ovde ..Как испытали "Борей"

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Imam edno prasanje do vas,dali Bulava proektilot ima podverzii?Imam sretnato na netov kade se naveduva istoimeniot SLBM kako:
-Bulava-M
-Bulava-30
-Bulava-45
-Bulava-47
Sto e razlikata pomegju ovie cetiri??Vo nosivosta ili pak krajniot dostrel?
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Nishto konkretno...samo shpekulativno se pojavuvaa tie nazivi ko potencijalni podverzii (usovrsheni) na "Bulava"...mozhno e da se raboti i za propaganden trik...
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Дали се знае, во смисла дали е тоа јавно достапна информација од која длабочина еве на пример Тајфунов може да испали Булава?
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karamba wrote:Дали се знае, во смисла дали е тоа јавно достапна информација од која длабочина еве на пример Тајфунов може да испали Булава?
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Zoran MAF wrote:
karamba wrote:Дали се знае, во смисла дали е тоа јавно достапна информација од која длабочина еве на пример Тајфунов може да испали Булава?
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Zoran MAF wrote:Ova bogatstvo go imav doma od 14 godini
i u selenje se nickosa

lele
koj cital znae

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Aииии и јас ја имав! Една од најомилените книги ми беше.

Лилеееј чоек од кога не сум ја помислил книгава. Фала на потсет друже!
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Мал допринос и од моја страна. Нема крај за рускава апатија со Кузњецов, сеа ќе спајале два дока да може да го паркираат.
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The 35th SRZ in Murmansk will be upgraded to repair the "Admiral Kuznetsov"
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According to the newspaper "Kommersant" in the material of German Kostrinsky and Ivan Safronov, USC found a place for Admiral Kuznetsov. The corporation will accelerate the modernization of the SRZ 35, the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation found a factory where the repair of the only aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov as part of the Navy after the accident and flooding of the floating dock PD-50 . For the resumption of work, USC will launch the modernization of the 35th Ship Repair Plant ahead of schedule, where it will unite two dry docks into one, into which it will place the aircraft carrier. According to the source of “Kommersant” in the shipbuilding industry, the terms of reference for the construction of a similar PD-50 dock has already been developed, but in reality there is no place to create it.


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Heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov" project 11435 at the wall of the branch "35 ship repair plant" JSC "Ship Repair Center" Zvezdochka ". Murmansk, January 2019 (c) Pavel Lvov


In 2019, USC will launch the modernization of the 35th Shipyard in Murmansk (35 SRZ, a branch of the Zvezdochka ship repair center) for the subsequent completion of repair work on the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov. This was announced yesterday by USC President Alexei Rakhmanov. According to him, the repair of the aircraft carrier will be completed in 2021 with a possible four-month delay. The president of the corporation notes that the modernization of 35 SRHs was discussed for the last three years, the work should have started in 2021, but because of the need to urgently find a place for the repair of “Admiral Kuznetsov” after the accident at 82 SRH at the end of last year, the modernization of 35 SRH will start early.

The USC says that the cruiser is already in territory 35 of the shipyard. Additional comments were not provided there, as “the information is confidential”.

Recall that the cruiser was repaired at the 82nd ship repair yard (owned by Rosneft), located in the Kola Bay near Roslyakovo. At the end of 2018, the largest floating dock PD-50 in Russia sank, the cause, according to Kommersant’s sources in the industry, could be a mechanical rupture of the weld of the product. At present, the PD-50 remains at the bottom of the Kola Bay, the decision on the method of its recovery has not been made. The PD-50 was the only floating dock where large warships of the Russian Navy could be repaired. According to Kommersant's information, Rosatom was going to dock on the PD-50 nuclear-powered icebreakers of the project 22220, which are being completed at Baltzavod, and now the state corporation needs to find another way.

According to the interlocutors of “Kommersant” in the industry, nuclear submarines docked most of the time on the PD-50. “They can be repaired in other places, but in this case the PD-50 would stand idle. It was convenient for the fleet to send them for repair to Roslyakovo because of its proximity to the bases of the submarine. The truly indispensable PD-50 became when it was necessary to repair aircraft carrying cruisers or the nuclear cruiser Peter the Great, ”said one of them. After the accident, USC, the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Industry and Trade for four months were looking for a suitable option for resuming work at Admiral Kuznetsov. “At the 35th plant there are two parallel-arranged dry docks 200 meters long. The modernization project involves combining them: they simply break the wall between them to squeeze Kuznetsov into it, ”an industry source told Kommersant. Another source of “Kommersant” expressed concern that the expanded drydock would be unclaimed upon completion of the repair of the aircraft carrier: “It would be possible to carry out docking at the NOVATEK plant now under construction in Belokamenka, which would save budget money.” In Novatek, they told “Kommersant” that the company did not receive proposals to repair the aircraft carrier in Belokamenka: “The center for building large-capacity offshore structures is not intended for the repair of ships.”

The third source, “Kommersant,” states that the technical design specification for the design of the new floating dock, similar in size to the PD-50, is already ready. But in Russia today there are no shipyards with suitable capacities: according to a source of “Kommersant” in the government apparatus, a similar order can be placed either in China, or wait for the input of the Far Eastern Star’s facilities. But, the interlocutor of “Kommersant” notes, “such a giant floating boat is not a serial product, therefore its construction can take years to stretch.”



Comment bmpd. The project of rebuilding the dry docks of the 35th SRZ into one large dock, which is discussed in shipbuilding circles for a long time, is one of the attempts at relatively moderate costs to resolve the wild situation of complete dry dock in the Northern Fleet for docking and repairing large surface combat ships.
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Мора да се одржува илузијата за паритет. Мораат и они да имаат носач за да го покажуваат пред електоратот „еве имаме и ние“ па макар што... Во таа смисла, „Кузњецов“ е бесценет.
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Nosac i kapitalni plovila im trebaat. Nemaat kapaciteti da gi napravat. Toa e toa sto gi maci.
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Ne gledam nikakva operativna preka potreba da Rusija ima nosach na avioni...

Shto se odnesuva do sagata na "Kuzhnjecov" - koga god go slushnam negovoto ime mi se javuva edna numera vo podsvest:


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Šoikj s's belu lagju.... :lol:
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Zamisli da go nemaa Hmeim u Sirija. Mislam deka ovaa diskusija ja imavme na dva pati, moraat da imaat kapitalni plovila, im treba i nosac i pred se amfibiski desantni brodovi, do tamu da moraa i da gi kupuvaat vo Francija. Zatoa sto ke im se desavaat i drugi Sirii a ne sekade ke imaat bazi.
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karamba wrote:Дали се знае, во смисла дали е тоа јавно достапна информација од која длабочина еве на пример Тајфунов може да испали Булава?
Tajfunot ne ispaluva Bulava samo mava so Sineva i Lajner (Sineva Mod2)isto kako i Delta IV so Bulava mavaat Boreite.
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Nope - i TK-208 "Dmitriy Donskoy" ("Typhoon" - odnosno "Akula") e modifikuvana da gi nosi - i toa 20-set komada..."Delta-4" ("Delfin") iskluchivo se na R-29RMU "Sineva" - so toa shto edna od niv (K-84 "Ekaterinburg") e modifikuvana da gi nosi i novite usovrsheni R-29RMU-2 "Layner"...ultimativno - se toa kje se menuva so "Borei-A" ("Borei-2")...a vo idnina kje bide nadopolneto i so "Borei-B" ("Borei-3") - mada ne pred 2027-ma...
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